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Old 09-28-2008, 10:33:41 AM
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ICH machtet den Test und bei nur 2 Punkten stimmten Obama und ich ueberein.
McCain war der Result.
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Ron Paul
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:07:28 PM
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nicht dein ernst oder lol
muss dich enttauschen den er wird es mit sicherheit NICHT
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John McCainBarack Obama
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Abortion
John McCain: Says Roe vs. Wade should be overturned.
Barack Obama: Favors abortion rights.

Education

John McCain: Favors parental choice of schools, including vouchers for private schools when approved by local officials, and right of parents to choose home schooling. More money for community college education.

Barack Obama: Would encourage but not require universal pre-kindergarten programs, expand teacher mentoring programs and reward teachers with higher pay not tied to standardized test scores, in an $18 billion plan to be paid for in part by delaying elements of moon and Mars missions. Change No Child Left Behind "so that we're not just teaching to a test and crowding out programs like art and music." Tax credit to pay up to $4,000 of college expenses for students who perform 100 hours of community service a year.

Same-sex marriage

John McCain: Would let states regulate. Opposes a constitutional amendment to ban it.

Barack Obama: Supports recognition of same-sex civil unions short of marriage. Would let states decide whether to recognize same-sex marriage. Opposes constitutional amendment against it.

Global warming

John McCain: Chief co-sponsor of a bill that sought mandatory caps on greenhouse gas emissions. Plan would require emissions to return 2004 levels by 2012 and to 1990 levels by 2020. Barack Obama: Ten-year, $150 billion program to produce "climate friendly" energy supplies that he'd pay for with a carbon auction requiring businesses to bid competitively for the right to pollute. Joined John McCain in sponsoring legislation that would set mandatory caps on greenhouse gas emissions. Supports tougher fuel efficiency standards.

Gun control

John McCain: Voted against ban on assault-type weapons, but in favor of requiring background checks at gun shows. Voted to shield gun-makers and dealers from civil suits.
Barack Obama: Voted to leave gun-makers and dealers open to suit. Also, as Illinois state lawmaker, supported ban on all forms of semiautomatic weapons and tighter state restrictions generally on firearms.

Health insurance
John McCain: $2,500 refundable tax credit for individuals, $5,000 for families, to make health insurance more affordable. No mandate for universal coverage. In gaining the tax credit, workers could not deduct the portion of their workplace health insurance paid by their employers.
Barack Obama: Proposes mandatory coverage for children, no mandate for all. Aims for universal coverage by requiring employers to share costs of insuring workers and by offering coverage similar to that in plan for federal employees. Says package would cost up to $65 billion a year after unspecified savings from making system more efficient. Raise taxes on wealthier families to pay the cost.

Immigration
John McCain: Sponsored 2006 bill that would have allowed illegal immigrants to stay in the U.S., work and apply to become legal residents after learning English, paying fines and back taxes, and clearing a background check. Now says he would secure the border first. Supports border fence.

Barack Obama: Voted for 2006 bill that would have provided conditional path to citizenship, and supported border fence.

Iraq
John McCain: Opposes scheduling a troop withdrawal, saying latest strategy is succeeding. Supported decision to go to war, but was early critic of the manner in which administration prosecuted it. Key backer of the troop increase.

Barack Obama: Opposed the Iraq war from the start but he was not in the Senate to vote for or against the authorization for war as Hillary Clinton and John Edwards were. He has said he would get "our combat troops out within 16 months." Social Security
John McCain: Favors using a portion of payroll taxes to finance private retirement accounts. Would consider "almost anything" as part of a compromise to save Social Security, yet rules out higher payroll taxes for now. Barack Obama: Proposes raising cap with an unspecified "small adjustment" that would subject a portion of higher incomes to Social Security taxes. Opposes using a portion of payroll taxes to finance private retirement accounts.

Stem cell research
John McCain: Supports relaxing restrictions on federal financing of embryonic stem cell research.

Barack Obama: Supports relaxing restrictions on federal financing of embryonic stem cell research.

Taxes
John McCain: Twice opposed Bush's tax cuts, at first because he said they were tilted to the wealthiest and again because of the unknown costs of Iraq war. Now says those tax cuts, expiring in 2010, should be permanent. Proposes cutting corporate tax rate to 25 percent.

Barack Obama: About $80 billion in tax breaks mainly for low income workers and the elderly, including tax credit worth up to $500 a person to offset payroll taxes and elimination of tax-filing requirement for older workers making under $50,000. A mortgage-interest credit could be used by lower-income homeowners who do not take the mortgage interest deduction because they do not itemize their taxes. Raise corporate taxes and the top rate on capital gains and dividends to pay for the cuts. Would let some of President Bush's tax cuts expire in 2010 as scheduled, in effect raising taxes on wealthier people to help pay for programs.

Trade
John McCain: Free-trade advocate.

Barack Obama: Would seek to reopen North American Free Trade Agreement to strengthen enforcement of labor and environmental standards.
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Danke Inge, schoene Auflistung!
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hmmmm...socialism vs. Konservatism/ Kapitalism?

duh?!
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hmmmm...socialism vs. Konservatism/ Kapitalism?

duh?!
Weisst Du eigentlich was socialism ist?
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Sie wird schon wissen was es ist,
wenn sie es schreibt
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hmmmm...socialism vs. Konservatism/ Kapitalism?

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Weisst Du eigentlich was socialism ist?
Sie quotet vielleicht von einem report von Glenn Beck? Den mag sie ja

As George Will wrote this week: "Treasury Secretary Paulson, asked about conservative complaints that his rescue program amounts to socialism, said, essentially: This is not socialism, this is necessary. That non sequitur might be politically necessary, but remember that government control of capital is government control of capitalism."

Commentary: Financial meltdown is an absolute disaster - CNN.com

ich mag allerdings diese Aussage aus dem Report

We are privatizing gains and socializing losses
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:37:17 PM
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mein lehrer hat mir mal gesagt das man ueber religion und politk nicht reden sollte mit fremden leute
jetzt weiss ich auch warum
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mein lehrer hat mir mal gesagt das man ueber religion und politk nicht reden sollte mit fremden leute
jetzt weiss ich auch warum
ja Recht hat er.
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Sie quotet vielleicht von einem report von Glenn Beck? Den mag sie ja

As George Will wrote this week: "Treasury Secretary Paulson, asked about conservative complaints that his rescue program amounts to socialism, said, essentially: This is not socialism, this is necessary. That non sequitur might be politically necessary, but remember that government control of capital is government control of capitalism."

Commentary: Financial meltdown is an absolute disaster - CNN.com

ich mag allerdings diese Aussage aus dem Report

We are privatizing gains and socializing losses
Sie ist hier und kannst Pia sagen ich weiss was es ist.
Und mehr sage ich nicht mehr, denn wie auf der andren Baustelle, wenn man nicht der gleichen Meinung ist, ist man der Gelackmeierte.
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Sie wird schon wissen was es ist,
wenn sie es schreibt
Nicht jeder weiß, was die Wörter heißen, die sie verwenden...
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Ich finde es interesant das meine Kollegin versuchen mir Obama schmackhaft zu machen und dabei alles moegliche auffahren. Jetzt las ich gerade das manches was sie daher brachten gar nicht stimmt. Dafuer habe ich den Bericht jetzt ausgedruckt und nehm ihn mit, auch den Unterschied zwischen beiden, mal sehen was die fuer Ausrede jetzt daher bringen. Ist interesant, 2 versuchen 2 andere fuer Obama zu gewinnen.
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Ich finde es interesant das meine Kollegin versuchen mir Obama schmackhaft zu machen und dabei alles moegliche auffahren. Jetzt las ich gerade das manches was sie daher brachten gar nicht stimmt. Dafuer habe ich den Bericht jetzt ausgedruckt und nehm ihn mit, auch den Unterschied zwischen beiden, mal sehen was die fuer Ausrede jetzt daher bringen. Ist interesant, 2 versuchen 2 andere fuer Obama zu gewinnen.
Bei uns wird ueber sowas ueberhaupt nicht geredet, Politik und Religion haben auf einem Arbeitsplatz nichts zu suchen.

Mich kann man auch nicht umstimmen, egal, wie man es versucht.
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Sie ist hier und kannst Pia sagen ich weiss was es ist.
Und mehr sage ich nicht mehr, denn wie auf der andren Baustelle, wenn man nicht der gleichen Meinung ist, ist man der Gelackmeierte.
Du betest vor und nimmst ab wie man so schoen sagt
Haette auch keine Erklaerung erwartet, denn normalerweise beruhst Du Dich auf Schlagworte.
Das hat nix mit anderer Meinung zu tun.
Hab Deine oben gequotet, Du bist ja selbst mit Dir nicht eigener Meinung, Du wolltest kein Bailout, nun ist die boese botox infused Pelosi, die OMG Demokrat ist, schuld.....I rest my case....
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Sie ist hier und kannst Pia sagen ich weiss was es ist.
Und mehr sage ich nicht mehr, denn wie auf der andren Baustelle, wenn man nicht der gleichen Meinung ist, ist man der Gelackmeierte.
Darf ich hier auch posten oder nur Du?

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Bei uns wird ueber sowas ueberhaupt nicht geredet, Politik und Religion haben auf einem Arbeitsplatz nichts zu suchen.

Mich kann man auch nicht umstimmen, egal, wie man es versucht.
Ja, man darf nur Deine Meinung lesen... aber bloss nicht dagegenposten... wo kaemen wir denn da hin?

Ich will Dich auch nicht umstimmen Sonja, auch Inge nicht. Jeder waehlt doch sowieso was er fuer richtig findet. Aber wenn man hier seine Meinung nicht mehr posten darf wozu gibts dann diesen thread ueberhaupt?
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Mich kann man auch nicht umstimmen, egal, wie man es versucht.
Es geht doch gar nicht darum, Leute wie Dich "umzustimmen" - das ist erstens unmoeglich, und zweitens evtl. auch gar nicht wirklich erstrebenswert Wenn Du das schon nicht verstehst...

Du scheinst irgendwie die Art Typ zu sein, die sowas wie z.B. "Birk Economic Plan" als echte Loesung ansieht - kam auf TalkRadio, also muss es wahr sein...
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Jeder waehlt doch sowieso was er fuer richtig findet. Aber wenn man hier seine Meinung nicht mehr posten darf wozu gibts dann diesen thread ueberhaupt?
Das gleiche mein ich auch.
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Ich finde es interesant das meine Kollegin versuchen mir Obama schmackhaft zu machen und dabei alles moegliche auffahren. Jetzt las ich gerade das manches was sie daher brachten gar nicht stimmt. Dafuer habe ich den Bericht jetzt ausgedruckt und nehm ihn mit, auch den Unterschied zwischen beiden, mal sehen was die fuer Ausrede jetzt daher bringen. Ist interesant, 2 versuchen 2 andere fuer Obama zu gewinnen.
Mensch Inge..frag wieviel sie bezahlen.....
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